Since re-joining the National Football Conference in 2002, the Seahawks have compiled a record of 1951421 (as of the end of the 2022 season). Also since then, the Seahawks have had only five losing seasons (between 2008 and 2011, as well as 2021), although their 2010 team won the Western division title, despite finishing with a 79 record. Because it's a different GM skill being measured. GMs are compared to each other by how well they made the best pick they could each time it was their turn. Again, doing this somewhat neutralizes the effects of outliers, particularly when the outliers are biased in a particular direction. (I was) kind of frustrated, but it happens. At the bottom of the list you have Tampa Bay (86%), Cleveland (78%), and the Jets (74%). Roughly speaking, we can say that about half the value comes from the first three years, distributed fairly evenly. Constant turnover makes that impossible. June 20-22 at Yankees; June 23-25 at Orioles. This year, the Over/Under for the Seahawks is 8-1/2 games. The last two general managers have been atrocious drafters, with MacCagnan a little better than Idzik, who whiffed on a draft with 12 picks, with only Quincy Enunwa being considered worthy of a second contract IN THE NFL. Exclusive Premium Content For Subscribers. At the bottom is Cleveland at -12, Tennessee at -11, and the Giants and Jets both at -9. In reply to What about drafting ability by position by ffthoughts. To see how much a team gets out of a draft, we need a measure that gives a value to all players, regardless of position, based on their actual on-field performance (not their potential, not their talent, not their time in the 40-yard dash). That is, how much return is typical of the draft class year, how much Y+1, Y+2, etc? If you select the Best Player Available (BPA) you did your job. There is a reason I chose it from my graduate thesis. Does your analysis extend to teams ability at drafting certain positions? To order In reply to A couple of questions by BigRichie. BackCAST 2023: Is Zach Charbonnet Overrated? He arrived in the Pacific Northwest tasked with documenting the early years of the citys two infant franchises: the Seattle Seahawks after joining the NFL in 1976 and This suggeststhat while the data is still mostly random noise, there is some faint evidence that some teams really are better (or worse) at drafting talented players than their competition. If you only look at the last five years, the top three teams stay the same, and Cleveland becomes even more dominant. The table below shows Seattle Seahawks results year by year. After Seattle in 2012, Indianapolis and Baltimore have the next two best drafts, both coming in 2018 when they combined to draft Quenton Nelson, Darius Leonard, Lamar Jackson, and Orlando Brown. WebVisit ESPN to view the Seattle Seahawks team schedule for the current and previous seasons Do you know of some other such stat that you think would work better? It also doesn't produce strange results when given small sample sizes, for example the harmonic mean of a draft class consisting of Ricky Williams and nobody else is going to compare quite favorably to one that's spread across several serviceable depth guys, contrary to what you might have wanted a method like that to prefer. "He's still a fairly young player that's had good productivity the last couple years," Smith said. I just hope I can guide those guys in the right direction.. I should point out that while it would be difficult for fans/media to boil this into a metric, for a *team* it'd be trivial, as they've got orders of magnitude more data than we do - they know where they valued *every* player, including ones they didn't take (and they can use where other teams drafted players as a reasonable proxy for their valuation). Error, please try again. We can also see how badly New England has drafted in the last three years. A four-game win streak in games that have gone to extra innings also solidifies that resiliency and erases the questions that plagued them in the first month of the season when they lost their first five contests that went to extras. Same with Pete Carrol I suspect. Kansas City's 2017 draft is going to keep looking better and better as Patrick Mahomes keeps racking up approximate value and catching up for his "missing" rookie season. AP NFL: https://apnews.com/hub/nfl and https://twitter.com/AP_NFL, Seattle Seahawks quarterback Geno Smith (7) hands off to running back Kenneth Walker III, Monday, May 22, 2023, at the team's NFL football training facility in Renton, Wash. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson), Connect with the definitive source for global and local news. It's clear the big outliers are making it seem more random than it really is for non-outliers, but it doesn't tell us in exactly what way that is true. In graduate school, I adapted Eugene Fama and Ken French's, "Luck VS Skill" paper to the NFL draft. ", In reply to I've made this point before by Pat. Interesting that those years coincide with the tenure of Scot McCloughan as a senior personnel executive. For the last 10 years, you get Dallas at the top at +10, Atlanta and Kansas City next at +8, Seattle and Washington at +6, Green Bay at +5, Miami at +4, then Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore at +3 to round out the top 10. On the back end of it you get the Orioles, who have the third-best record in baseball and are the only team whose bullpen fWAR (3.4) is better than the Ms (3.3). These are the teams that actually did find the most talent in each draft. Blue/orange is a common colorblind-friendly palette. It's a measure of production value. Yeah, I thought I was going to win it, but Garrett Wilson is a great player though, Walker said Thursday after the Seahawks wrapped up their latest offseason workout. Just so you don't gloat that much, Mr. Ellinger, Idzik came over to ruin the Jets from your favorite team, the Seahawks. You can see the 2011 and 2012 Seahawks drafts on the far right, along with the 2013 Green Bay draft. I just have to come out here and do my best and get better.. The way that I understand AV, negative numbers are not possible. As a Browns fan, though, it was certainly not news to me that the Browns have had lots of draft capital which they have badly squandered. (The average is 3.125%, which is exactly 1/32nd of 100%). Mariners Insider, Seattle Sports. Yeah, I thought I was going to win it, but Garrett Wilson is a great player though, Walker said Thursday after the Seahawks wrapped up their latest offseason workout. Playoff History. First, how does 'Return' change as the years go by? Wright next to him at what is called the weak-side linebacker spot, or typically lining up on the side where there is not a tight end (the strong side is where there is a tight end). It seems like Dallas has done a great job of drafting, but they haven't really had the success these other teams had. Jay Gruden was the coach for 6 years- in the 2 years with McC, the team was over .500 both years. With a four-game series, youre either coming out a wash or having made up a nice chunk of ground. Seattle was 38-33 against teams that finished over .500, Last year, DraftKings Sportsbook put the Over/Under on Seattles wins at 5-1/2. to colleagues, clients or customers, or inquire about Do you only count years spent with the team that drafted them? In reply to I have to admit I was wrong; by mehllageman56. There's also something people miss. It doesn't look quite as bad as the raw numbers, but it's still very bad, easily the worst in that time. Bellore has 12 career linebacker starts with the 49ers in 2016 and 2017 and has played a few snaps for the Seahawks there. Plus - certainly when you are picking a 22 yo out of college, his injury future from age 26-30 is not something you could have possibly predicted, and injured players generate zero value Not sure if you would have to adjust the draft capital calculation as well. The Chase Stuart chart is not intended to be a measure of trade value. Updated Mon., May 29, 2023 at 4:17 p.m. And have you considered discounting that return as the years go by? Explore What is the Seahawks record as home underdogs since 2016? I found very little evidence to suggest the results of drafting were due to skill. I think its identifying what your primary runs are going to be, your go-to runs, he said. Feb 13, 2023 This graph depicts the average regular season home attendance of the Seattle Seahawks from 2008 to 2022. The NFL salary cap is making its biggest jump ever from 2022 to 2023. This might be the single toughest stretch of the season and the litmus test for what kind of team these Seattle Mariners are going to be. After that, it's just the elite veteran outliers adding a bit to the totals. The New England Patriots beat the Seattle Seahawks 2824 on February 1, 2015. Of course, you could argue that Aaron Rodger's HOF career should count that much towards drafting skill because if they were so sure he was that good, they would have played him earlier, right? I've considered doing something like that. If a player is NFL caliber but just happens to findhimself on the shortend of a roster crunch, he should theoretically still have opportunities to catch on with another team. To do an analysis like this at all, you have to have a cross-position number that captures the value of the player to the team. When we use CarAV as our measurement of value, it inherently means that the best players have more upside than the worst players have downside. He led NFL rookies in rushing touchdowns with nine as part of a season during which he played in 15 games and ran for 1,050 yards. That leaves Dallas and McIntosh likely vying for the third-down, two-minute role and for depth. It's choosing whether to value experienced players over draft picks. Yes, the Mariners host the MLB-best Rays before this from June 30-July 2, but that series isnt as important to the totality of the playoff race for Seattle. Both are extremely important skills. Do you only count performance above that of a replacement player? The Seattle Seahawks know they landed a steal in the 2022 NFL Draft with cornerback Tariq Woolen, yet some analysts still undervalue him after a stellar rookie Playoff Record: 17-19. Later on I distinguished them between first ballot and not, but that's not important here. A: Not really. I've made this point before elsewhere, but it's worth repeating: I think the vast majority of the reason people think drafting looks like luck is that they're evaluating drafts wrong. Likewise bright shades of orange and yellow. I definitely don't think it should be lower, but I could see moving it up a round or two. Add up all those values for the players a team drafted, and then you have the total draft return for that team (and year). In 2021, the Seahawks inserted Neal as a third safety, taking out Brooks to move Adams up to weak-side linebacker, getting him closer to the line of scrimmage to rush the quarterback. Seasons: 48 (1976 to 2023) Record (W-L-T): 383-358-1. And, for the methodology that I proposed, more than 8 or 9 draft picks might also bias the numbers in a negative way, simply b/c some of them would have almost no shot to make the roster. Stroud Falls to Colts in GTM's Final Mock Draft, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets: Low Floor, Low Ceiling, QBASE 2023: Why Bryce Young Tops C.J. I just see no evidence that outlier performers are predictable. Nothing in baseball occurs in a vacuum, though, and this year the collective strength of the American League has forced a loftier expectation on teams fighting for a playoff spot. I'll echo the comment from Joseph: I'd be curious to see the results if - pick-by-pick - you simply capture that pick as generating an above expected CarAV (count as 1) or below expected CarAV (count as -1) and then tally for all picks across the years. All 4 years without McC, the team was below .500. Seattle was 38-33 against teams that finished over .500, second-best in that category of any team in the AL (only the Astros at 42-27 were better). Russell Wilson is the best quarterback in the NFL. Of course, this is CarAV, which already has a time discount built in (10% per year from best year to worst), but I don't think things would change all that much is this were just done with straight AV. Bad is one over-performing pick a year and great is two. I think the math has to simply reflect the difference in value between the player selected and the player that could have been selected. But, of course, that makes Aaron Rodgers look like a week draft pick, which is a bit odd. A: Yes, they definitely could, just in the same way that the Seahawks used Ryan Neal alongside Adams and Quandre Diggs as a third safety. Clark racked up five sacks during the regular season last year and another 2.5 in the playoffs, but was released by Kansas City after the season in a move to save salary I assume a large part of the reason is the constant turnover at the top of the organization. In reply to The Seahawks also have been by Sixknots. Put another way, Gruden with McC went 17-14-1, .546. And then of course the pre-draft reports/mock drafts aren't really what the league thinks either, so you've got that problem. Bobby Wagner is the best linebacker since Ray Lewis. Stroud, Mike Tanier's Final Three-Round Mock Draft, Things to Do While Waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Recent and Trending topics from Football Outsiders. Has anyone tracked the value of players teams traded up to get, relative to the expected value of their draft slot? "DDK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett each set Seahawks single-season receiving records". Retrieved January 4, 2020. ^ "Most receiving yards, rookie season". pro-football-reference.com. Retrieved January 5, 2016. ^ "Most receiving yards, game". pro-football-reference.com. Retrieved January 8, 2016. I considered weighting the years (by total AV generated in that year relative to other years), but the problem was that anything like that made the Seahawks look like the gods of drafting for the last 10 years, rather than just "only" being #1. However, he's also something of a QB whisperer, which may explain his draft success. In reply to I read the article but by Bright Blue Shorts. He's performing like the 17th pick or so. And it can obviously be argued that bringing back Wagner to team with Bush and Brooks each recent first-round picks gives them a deeper trio to head the inside LB corps than it had heading into last season. Toronto Star articles, please go to: www.TorontoStarReprints.com, Conversations are opinions of our readers and are subject to the, 211 Pritchard Road, Unit 4, Hamilton ON L8J 0G5. I would say that there is some skill in choosing players who fill needs, fit your team and it's systems, etc. Tariq Woolen watched Thursdays workout following surgery to repair a cartilage issue in his right knee last week. To actually judge someone positively/negatively would take a very large sample to tune out the noise. Locked On has a DAILY podcast covering EVERY NFL team, find yours today! Sometimes, "upgrades" may be just somebody equally skilled, but younger; or equally skilled, but having potential to get better; or still mostly playing special teams, but at a different position group (DB vs. WR, for example). had Wilson as a ~4th round pick, and they valued him higher. The Seattle Seahawks have a 15-5 record against the 49ers between May 23, 2013 and May 23, 2023. I just hope I can be a mentor to the running backs that are younger than me, like Rashaad was to me, Walker said. But there is some good logic behind removing them if your definition of "drafts the best" is about how much skill a GM has relative to other GMs in making picks that out-perform their draft position. Otherwise, wouldn't that further tilt the calculations in favour of GMs who assemble a lot of late picks? Seattle didn't think Wilson would turn out to be a starter. Even if you only look at the last five years, they are still doing well at tenth in the league (Kansas City and Minnesota are now on top, while Dallas remains in third). And while the Seattle Seahawks used a second round draft pick on EDGE Derick Hall last month, they could turn to a familiar face in free agency to give them even more depth in Frank Clark. :-). Why? Each draft pick, from the No. The Seahawks have usually kept four on the 53, with at least two needing to be significant special-teams players. Of course we don't *know* what teams expectations were, so the best you can do is something like pre-draft reports. The other interesting thing about this study: On one hand, how bigone draft pick that hits (Wilson, J.J. Watt, Donald, Sherman, Mahomes, etc.) Who had the most wins as a favorite last season? Last year, with Wagner gone, Jordyn Brooks was the middle linebacker with Cody Barton on the weak side. The Seattle Mariners finished the month of May with a record of 17-11, a far better result than the horrific 10-18 they posted a year ago. They had as much draft capital as the bottom two teams (Philadelphia and Kansas City) combined. Just to reflect that drafting success for a given year wouldn't necessarily be evident until all players have had a chance to establish themselves. In a 3-4, there are two outside linebackers, as opposed to one in a 4-3 (in both, there are basically five on the line and two off the line in the front seven). That became the statistic. The Mariners lone series win this season against a team with a winning record came against the Astros at the start of May, while the losses have been to teams swirling around them in the playoff race (Angels, Blue Jays, Rangers, Red Sox and Yankees). A score of 100% means that teams got the talent they were expected to get given how much draft capital they had. The Seahawks are probably pretty good at drafting, but also had some crazy luck in hitting three jackpots in a row (Wilson, Wagner, and Richard Sherman). In reply to Almost all of the Seahawks' by Boots Day. Their 2017 return is the worst for the whole decade at just 0.71%, but their results in 2018 (at 2.07%) and 2019 (at 1.54%) have been terrible as well. for the value in each team's draft class, at least for 2010-2014. Football Outsiders content published by ESPN. If he under performs by that amount, he gets a -1. This wouldn't be surprising, since few GMs have 34-year careers. Quinton Coples was ok for a couple of years until the Jets decided he needed to play outside linebacker since they kept drafting interior D-linemen in the first round-thank god that's over. the ones that couldn't be any lower than 0? Very frustrating as a fan to watch these guys blow such a golden opportunity. Tampa is a likely division winner, so anything you get there is gravy especially with what looms after. We are not going live in the run game so to speak, so the more that you can do and the more that you can develop a wide range of skills for those guys, I think will be beneficial.. I have to admit I was wrong; 2012 was Tannenbaum's last draft, and it ended up being not that great. There is going to be some stuff that is good, plenty of stuff that we have to clean up and redefine and all of that sort of stuff. None of them, individually, are likely to panout. Same with Russell Wilson. The Chargers also had the second-biggest discrepancy between passing and running plays (65% pass to 35% run). Thank you for sharing. It could very well overvalue finding 4th to 6th round picks that become marginal to average starters and devalue finding first round picks who become pro-bowlers. I just have to come out here and do my best and get better.. how it would change if you just used 3 years (or rookie contract?) In reply to Im not a big fan of the by GwillyGecko. But it might be a good idea to only use AV for the first five years of a player's career for drafting-related analysis, since that's the maximum length of any rookie contract. Q: Do you expect Seattle to carry four RBs (running backs)? Using the +0's and the +1's as "success" is valid, but it just doesn't seem right to me because it gives you an awful lot of credit for low-round picks. That becomes more pronounced this season, where a more balanced schedule in MLB means youre going to see every good team in baseball and conversely have less chances to make up ground against division opponents. (Not trying to turn this into a MLB thread.) I don't think that's correct. The following is a list of all regular season and postseason games played between the San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks. 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Of course, the numbers for recent seasons are going to change a lot in a year or two. Now that is a good idea, and probably gets to the heart of what I was aiming for. They still deserve a boost, just like the Chiefs - most draft reports/etc. What would that look like? If team A has lots of holes, they should generally be drafting best player available; team B who does not have many holes may target a specific player,position, or skill. AV is the best attempt at this that I know of, despite its flaws (and I certainly don't know how to improve it). You can also calculate a straight-up success percentage out of this, either with all +0s and all +1s counting as a success, or only +1s counting as a success. Woolen is expected back in four to six weeks. We had a chance to develop a powerhouse, and we blew it. These are good points, but I think you're missing the fact that a lot of drafting comes down to assessing and valuing probabilities. The Mariners have had trouble slowing down the Red Sox and Yankees offenses, but this weekend represents a massive opportunity to springboard into the rest of a brutally tough month. The 2nd best is Cam Newton, followed by Matthew Stafford. Maybe, but he was picked 171st, which expects about 2 AV at this point for him. On average teams get something like ~2-3 ish starters a year. Do you have some specific colors you would recommend instead? More: Seattle Seahawks Head-to-Head Records. In reply to Outliers skew results by Joseph. In reply to Negative numbers are ultra by Bryan Knowles. Trades before and during the draft are a completely separate metric. This would imply that good or bad drafting results can be attributed almost entirely to luck. Follow us: Home. Those in red are in the bottom 10% and those in grey are in the bottom 1%. I guess Tre White and Matt Milano make up for a ton of mistakes. Unless you assume that hiring a good GM once means the next GM is expected to be good. Considering Medicare plan options can be confusing, whether youre signing up for the first time or making a change during open enrollment. WebWhile the Seahawks did their part, beating the Rams 20-13 (and with Russell Wilson tying the NFL record for most TD passes by a rookie in a season), the 49ers claimed the Division title, leaving the Seahawks with a wildcard berth and a road game to start the playoffs against Robert Griffin III and his hot Washington team. I would respond by saying just as there great winners that we remember, there are also extreme losers that we forget. It's kind of like a "success rate" stat instead of a "yards gained" stat. Jerry Dipoto previews the Seattle Mariners 2023 trade deadline path, A 29-27 record in the National League has you in a playoff spot, leading the NL Central, and maybe even a legitimate land claim to a few islands in the Pacific. That's just a quirk of the exact time window being looked at, and the "last 5 years" column is there to help see more recent trends. We when do this, we get a p-value of 0.000072, which corresponds to over a 1-in-13,000 chance that the variation between teams is entirely due to randomness. Medical examiners rules Craig Chamberlin's cause of death as heart disease, North Idaho College issues final plea as loss of accreditation hovers over school, Temperatures on the rise for this weekend with even bigger warmup on tap for early next week, Breaking down the 2023 summer forecast outlook for Spokane and the Inland Northwest. In reply to In graduate school, I by Scott P. Not exactly. We'll use this trick throughout this method, calculating the percentage share of an entire draft class (or multiple classes when aggregating multiple years). So clearly, the Seahawks are just vastly more skilled than other teams at drafting over the last ten years, right? IMO, every coach and GM know who they have, who may leave/has left in FA, whose cap # is a lot more than their production, what holes need to be filled, etc. The Seahawks have completed their first week of OTAs, or organized team activities, which is a fancy, and mostly legalistic, term for practices held in the offseason. coupled with good injury luck, plusa player who everyone thinks is good working himselfinto a player who is great. However, since we will want to compare drafts from different years to each other, we need to normalize these values so we can compare different years fairly. Which is a big downside (not that AV doesn't have downsides as well). To order copies of Walker saw first-hand the importance of having depth in the backfield last season as he was thrust into a starting role after Penny was lost to a season-ending lower leg injury after Week 5. In reply to I am a little surprised at by tjb. When it comes to the two rookies who could make the biggest difference for the Seattle Seahawks in 2023, it may not be their first-rounders. Agree that this is an excellent article. I don't think NE should get extra credit for passing on Brady 5 times and then him turning into the GOAT. He went on to work for the Jaguars, presumably as the cap specialist for the team that gave Nick Foles 88 million dollars. Explore sample content below to see what you're missing. However, things change ever so slightly if we look at the big picture. COSTA MESA, Calif. (AP) Kellen Moore is with a new team, yet he has the same mandate. At first glance, the results still look awfully random. Teams that have lots of high draft picks get excellent grades (unless they deviate too much from the conventional wisdom). If we compare any team's draft results in any given season to their average draft results of their other nine seasons, we get a correlation of 0.122. Walker actually received one more first-place vote than Wilson, but Wilson had more total points in the voting. Look at the Steelers,the Ravens, the Patriots, the Packers, the Saints, the Seahawks, hell, even the Cowboys (their problem is that their owner has a blindspot about coaches, but otherwise they do very well). The list of the 19 quarterbacks to play in an NFL game past the age of 40: QB, retiring age, last team (starts in 1st 10 NFL seasons) Still, this is moderately strong evidence that drafting is not completely random. How much return has each team gotten from its draft capital, though? His rookie year was so good that right up until the point the announcement was made during the NFL Honors award show during Super Bowl week, Walker felt confident he was going to be named offensive rookie of the year. Tampa Bay has struggled in the draft, not getting what they should have out of their third-best draft capital, while Cleveland has squandered the best draft capital of the decade. The more and more I think about it the more I think the NFL draft is a facsimile of the stock market. His rookie year was so good that right up until the point the announcement was made during the NFL Honors award show during Super Bowl week, Walker felt confident he was going Last year, the Seahawks changed from a base 4-3 defense four down linemen (tackles and ends) and three linebackers to a base 3-4, three down linemen and They look at the guys they drafted *before* Brady and say "dear God, I was an idiot. McIntosh will have to show he can take on a significant special-teams role in case the team uses Charbonnet in a major ball-carrying role. Poona Ford looks like a keeper too and some others. The Day Kansas City Drafted Patrick Mahomes, Aidan O'Connell, Tanner McKee, and the Day 3 QBs, Jaxon Smith-Njigba Highlights Deep Class of WRs, Most Undervalued Players in a 2023 Fantasy Football Draft, Colts Take Will Levis in Latest Mock Draft. But the Jets being at the bottom is not due to luck. First, we must consider how many draft picks you have and how good those picks are. You can see the string of great drafts from 2010, 2011, and 2012 for the Seahawks that propelled them to two Super Bowls shortly thereafter, making Seattle the only team with more than one year above 5%. But that's actually not terrible, even if it is disappointing. Obviously, I'm focusing on the drafting-related questions. Yup, it's quite tricky. All rights reserved. Doing this with only the +1s counting doesn't change any team's position that much, except that Pittsburgh drops to #16 and New England shoots all the way up to #2. Last year, the Seahawks guaranteed the first two years of the base salary for second-round pick Kenneth Walker III and roughly two-thirds of his Year Three salary ($1.03 million of a total of $1. That's why I laid out my methods as clearly as possible, as it is very reasonable to disagree with those methods or to say "that doesn't really measure who drafts the best properly". Maybe their coaching wasn't that good? Also,teams with better rosters are better able to put individual players in defined roles that maximize their value rather than having having to ask them to do things that expose their weaknesses. "There may be some value in bringing him in now when you know the price isn't going to be as high as it was a couple months ago.". What do you mean by "best"? Maybe a better way to evaluate any class that is in the top ~25% overall is to take the median or harmonic mean of the top 5 guys in the class, or something like that. But they're different skills and need to be evaluated on their own. Who has the top season by draft return in the last 10 years? The math for this is a little complicated, but in the end, this gives us a p-value of 0.034 (based on a generic F-distribution) for the chance that the variation between teams in this data set is due to randomness (about a 1-in-30 chance). I just hope I can guide those guys in the right direction.. In fact, plot a histogram of the investment firms by years in the market and it will look surprisingly similar to NFL regimes(here I looked at the longest tenure of coach or GM of the team). Has the master lost his touch? We know you are here for the FREE analytics, not the ads. Roughly speaking, we can say that about half the value comes from the first three years, distributed fairly evenly. But when you start eliminating or discounting outliers in a situation like this, you have to be really careful that the way you choose to do that doesn't bias the result. A contractual when you have to start paying the player. TreWhite was a 27th pick, but is performing like an 8th pick of so, which is very good. As much as anything, the Mariners can make a statement if they pull off a second series win over Houston and set the tone for how the division race will play out the rest of the way. Brooks will be back at some point, maybe not for the start of the season, but the team is optimistic. Nathan Peterman, the worst QBever? Example video title will go here for this video. (A future expansion of this analysis might look at correlations by administration, rather than by team, to account for teams that have changed front offices over the past decade.). In reply to The other confounding by Led. The following is a list of all regular season and postseason games played between the San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks. Almost all the evaluations I see base it on something like career AV versus expected AV at that draft position, and that's a big problem, because it rewards teams when they're *wrong* and punishes them when they're *right*. Last season the Mariners were good very good when it came to facing teams with a winning record. This subject always rankles people's feathers both in finance and the NFL draft. And both of those are different questions than "how skilled is your team at drafting?" Finishing second in the offensive player of the year voting became a momentary topic Thursday when Walkers position coach, Chad Morton, ran past and jokingly yelled that Walker should have been the award winner. Either way, every team should be drafting players who are in theory better than somebody currently on the roster. In reply to Thanks for doing this, by Lost Ti-Cats Fan. Your message has not been sent. What matters is whether teams are right or wrong *relative to their own expectations*, and how that compares to the rest of the league. I could not find an aggregating source for career-ending injuries but I think this is legit to factor into the analysis if possible to do so. That opportunity may not come around againfor many years. Supercharge your procurement process, with industry leading expertise in sourcing of network backbone, colocation, and packet/optical network infrastructure. Clark was drafted by Seattle in 2015 and spent the first four years of his career in the Emerald City, totaling 35 sacks including 13 as a 25-year-old during the 2018 season. They didn't see him becoming the best quarterback in the league. Now Walker is the one passing on information after Seattle added a few more bodies to its running backs room by drafting Zach Charbonnet in the second round and Kenny McIntosh in the seventh. Thinking otherwise is like saying you made a mistake by not raising an opponent in Texas Hold'em on the turn, because you filled an inside straight on the river. We only remember the winners, that was the point Fama was trying to say. At least the 2019 draft is looking good for Cleveland, but that's only because they had very little draft capital (very unusual for them). But it shows up only on the margins, getting a little more here and there rather than one giant perpetual homerun machine. permissions/licensing, please go to: www.TorontoStarReprints.com. The other two linebackers in the 3-4 are outside linebackers, who flank the line of scrimmage. You second paragraph gets at the question of what, exactly, are we trying to measure? The short-hand explanation of an ANOVA test is that we are comparing how much variation we see between teams compared to how much variation we see for each individual team over the ten years in the sample. The Seattle Seahawks are 15-5 versus the 49ers between May 3, 2013 and May 3, 2023. Which free agents can the Seahawks go after to help improve the front seven of their defense? This is interesting, but I haven't decided whether I think that 130th pick break point is correct or not. The most surprising numbers here (although maybe not to Tom Brady) are the last three years for New England. I am a little surprised at how well the Bills 2017 draft grades out considering they completely whiffed their 2nd round pick (Zay Jones) and also drafted quite possibly the worst QB to ever start an NFL game (you know who). To make clear what my biases are: I'm a Seattle Seahawks fan. But I do agree with the idea of treating a pick falling into band around expected CarAV as 0. I think this is a great time of the year for all of the running backs to continue to develop a wide variety of skills when you dont have the pads on, offensive coordinator Shane Waldron said. So anything that isn't adjacent to those two is good. I do want to be clear that I do think there is some skill. Well, of course small sample size biases a lot of things. Florida QB Anthony Richardson may be a super intriguing prospect, but Mike Lefko thinks the Seahawks shouldn't take him in the NFL Draft. If 2022 was defined by the big series wins sweeps of the Blue Jays and Padres, three series wins over the Astros in the first half, a 4-2 record against the Yankees, the stirring series against the Braves (you get the point, there were a lot of big moments) then 2023 stands out for its definitive lack of signature victories. The simplest way to explain how it would look is that the third safety takes the spot of the weak-side linebacker. So I added a middle tier. I can hardly think of anything classier. The number of newborns in Japan also fell 5% to 77,747 babies last year, another new low, the Health Ministry said. This is necessary, because not very much CarAV has been generated by players from the last couple of years yet, and we don't want to think that drafts from years ago were better just because the players have been around longer. With the Bolts in their second week of voluntary on-field workouts, Moore is putting the unit through what he called a first lap through the playbook. And his status as a second-round pick means that logically, it would take a lot to dislodge him from that role. can impact the score in a dramatic way. Deploy network infrastructure faster and easier than ever before, with pre-packaged yet massively scalable infrastructure components for top packet and optical systems. To his point, Walker did have a rookie season worthy of being acknowledged as the best in the league. Last year, DraftKings Sportsbook put the Over/Under on Seattles wins at 5-1/2. The data says I'm right, though. The Seahawks expect linebacker Jordyn Brooks (ACL) and safety Jamal Adams (quadriceps tendon) to be in attendance at minicamp next week. It's absurd to say that a 6th or 7th round pick who has a good career was a mistake because he should have been taken higher, or that it was foolish to take some other guy before him who didn't pan out (except Marques Colston, maybe. Mike Lefko pokes fun at the NFL's Week 18 schedule that may be cheating the Seahawks. In reply to Av also has baked in by theslothook. It basically did thiscorrelate variables to predict hall of fame probability. The two teams have met each Love this analysis! Yes, "flags fly forever," and MLB's Marlins have TWO of them. Finally, not that this really matters, but when evaluating a GM/HC over time, I would think a weighting modifier for the most recent three years would be in order - say weight Year -1 at 25%, Year -2 at 50%, Year -3 at 75%, then Years -4 and beyond at 100%. Last season the Mariners were good very good when it came to facing teams with a winning record. Carroll said the team will likely have a better timeline for their return to the field early in training camp. This is a hard problem. I never thought of doing it by position. Early returns from rookie minicamp and OTAs are that Charbonnet is exactly what they thought he was. If you know of a way I can get AV for the first five years of every player's career, I would like to know about it. The quality and continuity of an organization is critical. Can we please stop using red and green to denote strongly contrasted values? Do you mean relative to the amount of draft capital? You can only assess decision-making based on the information you have when the decision is made. The Beastquake is the greatest run in NFL history. Dallas has been a key special-teams players his three years with the Seahawks, and Charbonnet and McIntosh look like they can do it, as well (and not just as return players but also in coverage). Almost all of the Seahawks' advantage comes in the first three years of the study. Interestingly, New England is #20 at +0. NFL quarterbacks past age 40. To his point, Walker did have a rookie season worthy of being acknowledged as the best in the league. The only other two RBs on the roster are undrafted rookie free agent Chris Smith and veteran free agent Bryant Koback. Over a 10 year period, you're top notch if you make 5 more good picks than you make bad picks, i.e. There's actually 32 players with -2 or less, most recently Jared Goff in his rookie year. I started with giving a +1 for being above expectations and a -1 for being below. In reply to Yup, it's quite tricky. That means that from 2015 to 2018, Cleveland effectively had three extra entire drafts. Percentage of CarAV generated by drafted players (relative to total CarAV in the draft). Could Stetson Bennett Be the Next Brock Purdy? If the Mariners find a way to take this series, it will send the entire month of June on the right trajectory.. Sometimes draft picks deal withinjuries; sometimes they just don't transition to the pros as well as expected; sometimes the player that they were expected to replace gets better, etc. So Red and Blue and Red and Yellow would be good choices. In reply to I took the set of draft by theslothook, That's an interesting approach. In reply to Or just Andy Reid. So what does our distribution look like? So now we come to the true test of drafting ability. rights reserved. WebRushing Receiving Scoring Kickoff Returns Punt Returns Punting Field Goals Interceptions Sacks Player Splits Team Stats Team Offense Team Defense Team Scoring Turnover Do you try to account for injuries? 2023 Bonneville International. In reply to Love this analysis! Values shown in gold are in the top 1%, while those in green are in the top 10%. Wide receiver Keenan Allen, who has had five offensive coordinators since being drafted by the Chargers in 2013, has been happy with Moores approach to the offense during the offseason. It doesn't control for that at all (other than slightly by using CarAV instead of DrAV). The lifecycle of successful money managers is shorter than you think and both are plagued with survivorship bias, even among your middle tier above average funds. Of course over five years, that might mean the bad team has a solid offense with a good QB, a good WR, a good TE, and 2 good OL. So each draft position is converted from an expected CarAV into a percentage of the total expected CarAV of the entire draft. Walker saw first-hand the importance of having depth in the backfield last season as he was thrust into a starting role after Penny was lost to a season-ending lower leg injury after Week 5. I feel like we lost more than we gained, but maybe thats simply due to me not understanding the scheme sufficiently. Bill James had a methodology for compiling lists of great baseball families so that they weren't simply overshadowed by singularly great players who put up more value than any of them combined. Instead, it was Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson who walked up on the stage and received the award. It just means the more variable guy ended up on the higher end of his range. This is a HUGE confounding variable. Its biggest downside for me, of course, is that I don't have that data, whereas I can just get CarAV from Pro-Football Reference. Milano and White alone would meet the expectations of that amount of draft capital, even if the rest of the draft failed to make the team at all. Or both be used? if every 2 years you make 1 good pick more than bad picks after accounting for when you're drafting. The Chiefs drafting Patrick Mahomes is a win, but it's not a massive win. After sitting behind his desk watching film for the first three months after getting hired, Moore has been happy to get on the field the last couple weeks to start installing the offense. Seattle lost Quinton Jefferson and his 5.5 sacks from last year this offseason, and after already bringing Bobby Wagner back on board it wouldn't be a shock to see the team kick the tires on a reunion with Clark, who turns 30 in June. When I did my analysis, I had to invent a new metric. There is one aspect from 2022 that hasnt been replicated, however, and it will be what the Mariners have to fix if they are to get back to the playoffs: their record against other playoff contenders. Sherman Smith. They drafted him early relative to expectation, but not a ton. 1 pick down to the last pick of the draft, is given a value based on the average amount of career approximate value (CarAV) that pick has generated. presentation-ready copies of Toronto Star content for distribution Its the kind of series that can stamp you as a legitimate contender, Morosi said. I would call the Chiefs the best-drafting team right now. Milano definitely puts them over the top. Tanner Vallejo probably isn't even on your radar, but he slightly outperformed his 195th pick position (of course the expectation for that is just barely above zero). Jets fans are not surprised, I'm sure, with only two above-average drafts in the last decade but three in the bottom 10%. Percentage of CarAV generated by drafted players (relative to total CarAV in the draft), divided by percentage of expected CarAV from draft picks used. We can find out by dividing each team's draft return by its draft capital in each year, then expressing that as a percentage. Yes that Sherman Smith, the running backs coach for the Seattle Seahawks. Look I admire the heck out of what you are doing. Then the rest of the value comes mainly in years four to eight, also distributed fairly evenly. In reply to Can we please stop using red by putnamp. Red and blue is the most common one I see. I know everyone missed on Brady but NE should not get extra credit: that's the epitome of luck. I think the first three are locks, with the only intrigue being if someone made a run at McIntosh for the final spot, but I think itd take a lot for him not to make it. To quote Fama, "Over a wide enough sample, there will be outliers just by chance. This is not a simple question. Its a little bit fast, Moore said, referring to the installation process over the next couple weeks. The Browns are followed in total draft share by the 49ers and Buccaneers. The purple bar is close to a 0.0 Z-score, while the different shades of blue represent about a standard deviation each. With Brooks still in rehab mode from his ACL injury, Wagner has been working as the starting middle linebacker in OTAs with Bush on the weak side. Web106 206 34 FIRST DOWNS Rushing Passing By Penalty 130 188 29 76 / 201 THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS 96 / 227 12 / 21 FOURTH DOWN CONVERSIONS 11 / 28 5976 The Greek site was one of five investigated in the Megalopolis area during a five-year project involving an international team of experts, a Culture Ministry statement said. MLB Networks Jon Morosi joined Seattle Sports Wyman and Bob for his weekly conversation Thursday and mentioned that its a strength on strength matchup between the Mariners elite pitching and the Rangers sizzling offense. The Seattle Seahawks have a 25-16 record at home between February 9, 2018 and February 9, 2023. In reply to In general, I agree with you by mehllageman56. Explore What is the Seahawks record as home underdogs since 2016? I would not trade Pete Carroll and John Schneider for Bill Belichick. That had issues because it means late-round picks swing things a lot, just because a player started a few games here and there. Yet in the AL, all that record gets you is a sympathetic pat on the back and a keep up the good work, youre doing your best.. Percentage of CarAV expected to be generated based on draft picks used (using Chase Stuart's expected AV draft chart). If we look at a histogram of the Z-scores, we can see how things get skewed by the top 20 or so drafts. Or terrible teams having lots of opportunities? It may, however, tilt the playing field in favour of GMs that tend to trade down. If you do not yet have a Torstar account, you can create one now (it is free), Copyright owned or licensed by Toronto Star Newspapers Limited. If you read stories about Brady - probably the biggest draft steal in history - being drafted, the Patriots didn't think he was a first-round pick. Only Demario Davis remains in the NFL from that draft. Missing in earlier rounds costs you more points. Draft Capital, 2010-2019. Also back is Nick Bellore, whose main function is special teams hes been a captain the last two years. I've never looked into that.). Contrast that to a class like the 2017 Saints with 2Pro Bowlers, plus another All-Pro, plus two other starters, plus two other part-time players. Also, the theory of efficient markets would seem to be applicable in the NFL draft as well. 1976 There are a lot of different ways of playing football, and you just have to keep it tight and condensed so that these guys can play fast.. 1 position. In reply to So here's what I've been by SeaRhino. - 2017-19 Patriots are coming off three consecutive SB appearances and draft badly. Its one reason I wouldn't use AV as a metric for something like this. His idea was to count the production of the most valuable family member (by his "Win Shares" construct, or in this case AV) once, the second-most-productive player counts double, then if there's a third player who put up production, it counts triple, and so on. That's a really interesting idea (the +1/-1 method). May 29, 2023 You can only evaluate these things relative to other teams (unless you think you know the secret to drafting better than the top NFL teams). The 3rd round guy was a safer pick, and the 4th round guy was more of a gamble. RENTON, Wash. (AP) Kenneth Walker III had a terrific rookie season after being called upon to take a bigger role as the primary ball carrier for the Seattle Seahawks. The factory of sadness is still open for business. But to say the Patriots made a mistake in drafting him too low is not correct. Last season the Mariners were good very good when it came to facing teams with a winning record. After that, it's just the elite veteran outliers adding a bit to the totals. Note that this is not relative to how much draft capital the team had (that step comes next), but is relative to the overall quality of the year being looked at. If memory serves, the 49ers had previously drafted well with him as GM as did the Redskins in a later GM role. Evaluator spend hours and hours pouring over metrics for a reason. But does this show that particular teams are actually better at drafting over time than others? I suspect it'll tell a similar story, but I'd be interesting if the results for any GM/HC combos change. A: I think running back is a cut-and-dried position heading into camp as I do think the Seahawks will keep four on the 53-man roster veterans Kenneth Walker III and DeeJay Dallas and draft picks Charbonnet and McIntosh. At some point, I would like to do this type of analysis based on the individuals involved, not just the team. I thought that was the purpose of this article--to see who drafts the best. If the GM was so good they wouldn't have risked letting other teams draft potential future HOF'ers. The Seattle Seahawks get poor draft grades because nobody understands why they made the picks they did. They are all gambles. I don't know why their draft capital was so low that year, which might be the GM's fault, but that's not what these tables analyze. I'm intensely curious about approaches to assessing value for the NFL. I then added the position of the player and tried to create a model from that I testeda few different kinds of algorithms to predict the probability( ie - logit, random forest, svm, and even some deep learning). Here are the total CarAVs generated by a given year's draft class (UFDAs not included). Who threw the most touchdowns in the 1990s? It's the relative skill that matters not the absolute skill. To be safe, we can run the ANOVA test using the medians (of each team, along with the overall data set) instead of the means when calculating the variances at each step. Numbers from years ago are a lot more stable and unlikely to change much. (RIght now, the only way I can think of that isn't doing it by hand is to write a program that looks at the career page of every single player, processes the yearly data for that player to parse out the year-by-year AV, and total all that up. Every one of those picks is a gamble. Baltimore has a good reputation for drafting, but remember that Cleveland has had a huge amount of draft capital, so it would be embarrassing if they were not in the top three. This is a solid approach, as the entire point of approximate value is to have a cross-position single number to compare any player's value to the team to any other player's value. Seattle Seahawks. All the data I've seen points to really high performing players being impossible to predict with any degree of accuracy. So Ozzie gets counted throughout his tenure with the Ravens as 1 while BB gets counted throughout his tenure as the Pats HC despite both of these regimes switching multiple HCs and GMs respectively. The Seahawks expect linebacker Jordyn Brooks (ACL) and safety Jamal Adams (quadriceps tendon) to be in attendance at minicamp next week. This means that if the pick is 130th or later, it can't be a bad pick (which I think is basically correct). Gifts processed in this system are not tax deductible, but are predominately used to help meet the local financial requirements needed to receive national matching-grant funds. Clark racked up five sacks during the regular season last year and another 2.5 in the playoffs, but was released by Kansas City after the season. Because any class that nets several Pro Bowl level players is almost always going to benefit the team more that a class with one superstar, except if the superstar is a QB. , Mailbag: Will Seahawks keep four running backs, and what will they do with them? The Seahawks planned to make that look using Adams as the weak-side linebacker a significant part of the defense last year before he suffered a quadriceps injury. Two walk-off wins in the past four games are emblematic of an identity that was forged in the belief that the Ms would find a way to win if a game was close or tied in the late innings. Explore What is the Seahawks record as home underdogs On the other hand, two series losses here could widen the gap that the Mariners will have to close over the second half of the season. Are you ready for a doozy of a conspiracy theory? So numbers-wise, thats the same depth they had inside last year. How likely was this player to be a hall of famer. In short, the teams at the top of the table should have found the most talent in these drafts. Seahawks give Pro Bowl K Myers 4-year deal. Youre able to carry over what we can from the past couple of years and then build off some of the Dallas stuff that is, maybe, coming from a scheme standpoint, he said. He teaches programming and game design following a long career as a game developer. If you are familiar with ANOVA tests, though, you might immediately be worried because using a generic F-distribution to get p-values can be a problem if your distribution is not fairly normal (or if the standard deviations within each group are too different, but that's not the case here). If you passed on BPA you lose points equal to the difference in the BPA's draft value (need to rerank the draft class and assign the 'right' value points to each player) and your player's draft value. Almost all of the Seahawks' advantage comes in the first three years of the study. In reply to Doing the ANOVA test with by SeaRhino, In reply to Can you just use log(AV)? I cant make those decisions, Walker said. For two teams neck-and-neck right now Los Angeles is 30-28, even with 29-27 Seattle in the division the Mariners cant afford to fall behind in both the standings and a potential tiebreaker. The year-to-year correlation for each team's return vs. capital results in Table 3 is just 0.081 -- there is practically zero relation between any team's results from one season to the next. Thanks, your message has been sent successfully. But over the last five years, they are right about at average, so maybe things aren't that bad? Which he has, so he has produced exactly according to expectations (those expectations being almost zero). That's a league-average GM in drafting ability. Still some value in that it's definitely easier to sign your own. I would assume ideally youd focus on positions which have multiple players of the field at the same time such CB, LB, WR etc. RENTON, Wash. (AP) Kenneth Walker III had a terrific rookie season after being called upon to take a bigger role as the primary ball carrier for the Seattle Seahawks. This article details statistics relating to the Seattle Seahawks NFL football team, including career, single season and game records. Most pass attempts, rookie season: Rick Mirer, 486 (1993) Most pass completions, rookie season: Rick Mirer, 274 (1993) Most pass completions, game: Matt Hasselbeck, 39 (2009) Then my set of variables were all position agnostic variables like games started, games active, prowbowls, all pros, sports illustrated all pros, etc etc. Star Newspapers Limited and/or its licensors. by Aaron Brooks G. So, to be completely honest, I used those because they are the default colors in Excel when selecting conditional formatting for top 10% and bottom 10%. How do you even separate drafting ability from the coaching staff making the players better? That's not an impossible thing to do, but maybe they have a paid service that gives you complete access to their database? In-depth strategy and insight into critical interconnection ecosystems, datacenter connectivity, product optimization, fiber route development, and more. Then, you just have to kind of ace it in training camp.. I assume they play the same (position)? Doing the ANOVA test with medians instead of means hints at how useful something like this might be. Use promo code, The Great Anthony Richardson Fantasy Football Debate, Eagles Soar, 49ers Faceplant in 2023 Draft Grades, Post-Draft Fantasy Questions for Each NFL Team, C.J. Clark, or another veteran with similar production, might be one of the final pieces for this team to win the division and challenge for another Super Bowl appearance for coach Pete Carroll. Do you mean best total performance over an entire career, regardless of the amount of draft capital you have? But the great team has that, and a good DE, DT, MLB, CB, and SS. - 2010-12 Seahawks are coming off three consecutive losing seasons and draft really well. [Are their any Jets' fans that would argue, "Yeah, we're horrible now, but we won that SB back in '69!]. No way - the Chiefs got lucky. A 3-3 split of this trip would be ideal, and anything better likely will have the Mariners sitting in a wild card spot. AP NFL: https://apnews.com/hub/nfl and https://twitter.com/AP_NFL, Anyone can read Conversations, but to contribute, you should be a registered Torstar account holder. Joe Nicholson-USA TODAY Sports Week 4: Seahawks 30, Lions 24 2022 Record: 2-2 In terms of toss-up games on Seattle's schedule, a road trip to Motown may top the list. Dan Pastorini put up a -6 in 1981. Peterman and their 6th rounder aren't great picks, but about average for their draft slot. 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