Tennis is a beautiful sport. Sanders, Smith, and Faulk were all mutually contemporaries. For what it's worth, Barry thought Jim Brown was better than he was. You really need to era by serutan. Peaks were. All the individual stuff is just too imprecise. "worst ever at running fakes". In reply to Why people are so obsessed by theslothook. Found plenty of anecdotal criticism of Brown's blocking but in his nine NFL seasons the Browns had a league-best record of 79-34-5 and scored 2,934 points, second only to the Johnny Unitas Colts. Please share the errors you found. So did i. Do I need to go on? That was one of the most talented offenses of all time. I simultaneously think they're overrated and underrated at the same time. ), it typically takes a few extra days to make it to the international markets. You can see how high Stafford is. & Support Aaron Support Football Outsiders' independent media and Aaron Schatz. Hi, is there an FO sub that gives access to all prior season's AGL stats? i'm going to read these every year until myself or Aaron Schatz dies. I don't think Aikman was the reason for 90's Cowboys success. If you look at decade+ all teams decay and just a few outliers remain. While he hasnt been transcendent, Williams has served as a really solid defensive tackle who got better under Saleh. That doesn't include pass attempts that weren't caught nor opponent adjustment nor yearly adjustment to baseline 0. By YPC and MVPs Brown is the best, by highlights Sanders is an out-of-this-world, by running-and-catching Faulk is the best, by single season peak Simpson 2000 yards in 14 games E. Smith isn't really in this. In reply to Milton Friedman had a great by theslothook. Much like fighters, Brown somewhat gets a pass from society for his violent transgressions because his appeal was based on his transgressive violence. There are plenty of players picked in that spot who are outright busts. In reply to I personally think Jerry by theslothook. You can be as excited about or frightened by this as you deem appropriate. To simplify, what we call civilized behaviour is just a surface and we are capable, almost any of us, to do almost anything. It sticks out like a sore thumb precisely because Brees got so little help from the other side of the ball. In reply to What is shocking to me is by guest from Europe. The argument against Jim Brown as the 'greatest football player ever' is that he was the worst ever at blocking, as he refused to do it. Still, I feel like Quinnen Williams has been better than just dependable. Was Jim Brown's style similar to D. Henry nowadays? Sanders may have been a great open field runner, but so was Brown, and Brown could also blow through tacklers a la Earl Campbell. by guest from Europe. Washington literally started the French and Indian War and he did it by killing some people for the purpose of land acquisition. ", This is the kind of typo that gives Rams fans the night terrors. Football Outsiders: Breece Hall Will Be a Workhorse Lead Back, Bringing your daily links to the NFLs New York Jets, Scouting Jets rookie tight end Zack Kuntz, Taking a look at the uber-athletic Jets rookie tight end, to wide receivers Elijah Moore and Garrett Wilson. As a (then) NYG fan, I feared Brown far more than any other opposing player. That is the only WR who had regular carries that i can think of and he has only 123 rushes. Faulk had a great year stats-wise on 1998 Colts. In reply to Jjim Brown was the best by guest from Europe. Details DVOA-metric doesn't like his boom-or-bust style. "Both Ramsey and Darnold are under contract through 2024, which means this dynamic duo will form the backbone of the Los Angeles defense for years to come. The Jaguars offense was 28th in AGL, so there's a good chance they get better injury luck in 2022. DYAR doesn't know he is only one on this list to be on losing teams with a high degree of difficulty of game-situation to perform well. It's also written with a knowing dry wit that gets under the skin of America's most popular spectator sport. Hes the highest-drafted defensive tackle since 2011 and has not played like he deserves that distinction. IIRC, Running back receiving DVOAs are normalized by the average receiving production of an average running back. Hes not the most available player, active in 41 games over 3 seasons, but his 633 defensive snaps in 2021 were the most of his career thus far. He has been answering questions about the team. Fighters are expected to fight. His weight is larger than those other RBs. It looks that this site values Faulk's career as the best among all RBs. It currently has 1 HOF left tackle, 1 HOF QB, and 1 HOF WR in addition to the hall of fame Marshall Faulk. or "Barry.". Yes. Also, his failings are not polished by his accomplishments. Fundamentally, a GM has to decide how much credit or blame a player deserves when it comes to decisions about free agency and extensions. As for Brees, it took an epically awful set of defenses every year to push the Saints down to 500. FO Almanac 2022; Fantasy & Betting. Quarterbacks have variability as well, but it's far less than other positions. Scouting Jets rookie defensive back Jarrick Bernard-Converse. His total career is far ahead of everyone else, about 1000 DYAR more than Sanders and Payton. Surprising to me: Peterson is quite behind other great RBs, whereas Emmitt Smith is about equal to Sanders. Barry Sanders 4.99 There is a substantial gulf between Deshaun Watson and Jim Brown on pretty much any axis you care to name. I disagree that being born into a colony makes it so that a person who rebels against colonial status is a "traitor". One of the best resources to prepare for an upcoming NFL season is none other than the annual Football Outsiders Almanac. In reply to So this site is going all by Theo. I think the biggest impact Hall makes to the Jets run game is simply his ability to be a workhorse lead back. He was a legendary lacrosse player at Syracuse. In reply to Walter Payton was the best by BigRichie. Join over 20k audio creators and earn $$. But Saints had a lot of 0.500 -type of seasons. The digital edition is new, as is the ability to comment on each of the 32 team chapters. In my history class, we went through a lot different materials covering the horrible history of the gas chambers in WW2. But more to the point, once again I refer to something Zach Lowe said. Save 10%. Heres what Cale had to say. The highest stats (traditional or DYAR) per game, but a short career. Commanders QB, WR, RB & TE reports from Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 What do the Football Outsiders think about Washington's primary skill players? How Good is Quinnen Williams? Ya thats true. He also almost never needed to. For more information on the book, along with a link to buy it, click here . I personally think Jerry Rice is the greatest football player of all time for the reason you listed out. In reply to Both were very good QBs But there really isn't an argument against Brown (other than, perhaps his early retirement to make the Dirty Dozen). He certainly didn't force the Browns to play "9-on-11". Brown there isn't enough film left, so it would have to be more data analysis. You can see above (#56) that just his career rush DYAR is above Peterson and very close to Tomlinson. I don't think this gap can be explained by teammates, scheme. This one is a very complex team sport: 22 starters+backups. It could be argued he had the highest esteem and reputation than any single player in NFL history. Then we moved to wide receivers Elijah Moore and Garrett Wilson. "Sweetness" is just a better one than "O.J." Payton had a great career and certainly had great career totals, but there were also periods of his career when other RBs were considered better. And you say he is clearly below those players. Does it actually benefit a quarterback to sit as a rookie? Philip Rivers even more so. I meant FO writers/editors, not "we" as commenters. It can be 20 years old article or analysis or football site. I missed all but the tale end of Jordan, but his name rang out so much that everyone everywhere knew his name. This is strictly for traditional QBs. nothing actually happened. On an academic level i agree with Pat. Here is the first part of our conversation, which. Quarterbacks are able to maintain their primes longer than just about any position other than kicker or punter maybe and they are more consistent, weak to weaken game to game than any position, including punter and kicker. Therefore, I treasure the 2 games against Cleveland that brought the Giants to the championship game with Baltimore. Football Outsiders Almanac 2020: The Essential Guide to the 2020 NFL and College Football Seasons: Schatz, Aaron, Verhei, Vincent, Spratt, Scott, Tanier, Mike, Knowles, Bryan, Klassen, Derrik, McCown, Rivers, Weintraub, Robert, Bassinger, Thomas, Potter, Andrew: 9798666296882: Amazon.com: Books Books Reference Encyclopedias & Subject Guides So just to be clear, I'm basing my comments not on my personal opinion, but my reading of conventional wisdom and perception by the common fan and standard media talking head. The Day Kansas City Drafted Patrick Mahomes, Aidan O'Connell, Tanner McKee, and the Day 3 QBs, Jaxon Smith-Njigba Highlights Deep Class of WRs, Most Undervalued Players in a 2023 Fantasy Football Draft, Colts Take Will Levis in Latest Mock Draft. I'm definitely one of those people who prefers not to pass judgment until the full facts and verdict are available. I agree. NFL Offseason - Unable to find a trade with a team willing to take his contract, the Arizona Cardinals announced this afternoon that they are cutting superstar wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins. If you miss the live stream, you can watch or listen to every show on YouTube or listen to the podcast version. Or I live in a very different society than yours. And in a few years, it will be adding another HOFer in Tory Holt. Peaks were. Football Outsiders Almanac 2022: The Essential Guide to the 2022 NFL and College Football Seasons by Aaron Schatz, J.P. Acosta, et al.| Jul 12, 2022 4.74.7 out of 5 stars(68) Paperback $29.99$29.99 FREE delivery Wed, Dec 14 Arrives before Christmas More Buying Choices$21.83(8 used & new offers) 2022 Fantasy Football Almanac Does it actually benefit a quarterback to sit as a rookie? From Brown to Faulk it's a different playing style, almost another position. Similarly in 2020, DYAR valued Kamara ahead of Henry because of Kamara's receiving although Henry had huge rushing value. Mahomes with more team success. If anybody is interested, here are some z-scores per decade 1980-2020, McCoy best in 2010s: https://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2022/01/the-best-nfl-running-backs-from-1980-2020/, (Of course, these stats are actually for a particular player in a particular offense with that o-line, it's not describing independent player quality), In reply to It can be 20 years old by guest from Europe, Walter Payton was the best blocking tailback ever. But when Jim Brown dies, we say nothing about what happened with the women that he encounteed. He was the worst ever at running fakes (play-action or other types), as he refused to do it. I'm a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty. Another Edelman? Sanders could truck guys and very occasionally did. James Brooks 4.73, No review of Brown's life would be complete without a discussion of his social activism as a prominent civil rights advocate after his early retirement from the NFL. Mosley) who wasnt drafted or signed under Joe Douglas. That being said, is it bad to say Who cares? At this point, Williams is a cost-controlled luxury from a prior administration. Odds and lines subject to change. Brady 2007-2012 (in 2008 injured) had 10633 pass DYAR and 128 run DYAR (sneaks). But it also means mechanically adding them up together doesn't imply Faulk was twice the RB that some of these other guys were/are. It has comprehensive previews for all 32 teams. He is one of just two starters (along with C.J. Similarly, Brees. When you by theslothook. Void in ONT. In the modern world, I don't think any of us would choose a running back as the greatest player in NFL history but the position was more important in Brown's time and he definitely may have been the greatest. Stroud Falls to Colts in GTM's Final Mock Draft, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets: Low Floor, Low Ceiling, QBASE 2023: Why Bryce Young Tops C.J. 2) DVOA and DYAR are compared against a baseline average. Let's start with . Once more, the media tends to be ultra selective with who deserves our praise and who our scorn. In reply to Much light fighters, Brown by Aaron Brooks G. No individual stats can be totally disentangled from team: RB from o-line, QB from WRs and o-line etc it should be talked about on a team basis. My opinion is that Sanders was better than Smith and Faulk. Our advanced stats at Football Outsiders show . I don't agree with this narrative. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & resort (KS). i agree and am happy that somebody besides me wrote this. Cale Clinton wrote the chapter on the Jets. Every man who founded this country was a traitor. 27 comments, Last at 20 Jul 2021, 10:22am. I guess you don't want Shula's Dolphins or 1970's Rams or Brown's Browns because that was a different era. In an ideal world you would like a superstar with the third pick, but thats not as easy as youd think. On a general level, QBs can't do great without good pass catchers. There are so many individual sports. A great receiving RB such as Kamara has total 1569 DYAR in 6 years and a pure rushing RB Henry has 1341 total DYAR in 7 years. To the extent that you need changeups to the pass; screens, dump offs, and end arounds serve as nice compliments and approximations to the running game. Note I use the word sustain winning to distinguish between winning a super Bowl as that's much more a function of luck than we care to admit. According to Football Outsiders' DYAR metrics, which assess tight ends in total value, Goedert's 208 DYAR ranked second only to Kelce's 248 last season. commentary for players at each ball-handling position, the year in quotes, etc.) The print edition of Football Outsiders Almanac 2021 should be available on Amazon.com by the end of the week and will cost $29.99. Explore sample content below to see what you're missing. In the few years that there are o-line data, 1996 and onwards, it is distinguished that Lions o-line was average, 10th, 13th and 29th at run blocking (adjusted line yards) while Sanders was clear No 1 in open field yards, whereas Cowboys' o-line was better than Lions' line at adjusted line yards but Cowboys RBs had 0.1yards per carry less than Cowboys o-line yards. The Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 is the ultimate way to prepare yourself for the upcoming season. That said, I have had to be content with the idea that at some level this is completely unknowable. 20-some plays a game Payton did his job as well as any player of his position ever has. WRs would get a higher receiving DYAR, RBs would get probably negative receiving DYAR. In the defensive secondary chart of the patriots, it shows the saints secondary. Read reviews from world's largest community for readers. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CarmHa00.htm. Next Gen Stats, Football Outsiders, and Pro Football Focus are just a few examples. Any stat for an individuadal player is limited, it includes that RB with his particular o-line, scheme, playcalls. What can we expect from Breece Hall? I disagree and DYAR disagrees. So I'm skeptical that it really affected the game that much. Hypotheticals about what happens if Roethlisbergerswitched teams with Stafford (or E. Manning or Palmer) i won't write. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MitcBo00.htm. History is a tricky thing. 1 in pass protection for rookie Manning. Full previews for all 32 NFL teams and the top 50 projected NCAA teams, plus over 500 player comments andKUBIAK fantasy football projections are all included. Joe Perry 4.82 The print edition of Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 should be available on Amazon.com by the end of the week and will cost $29.99. Most teams draft e.manning and have to find a way to win with that. In reply to Should be soon! Brown is lower because he had less total seasons, with 1 more year he probably equals Sanders. Get help and learn more about the design. It's best to have no prejudice opinion on such matters. What that implies is its harder to be exceptional as a rusher and much easier(at least statistically) to be exceptional as a receiver from the rb position. Worcester, MA. by FO Customer Service. ET . There is nothing to argue about with his on-field play - the man was virtually an unstoppable force of nature, refusing to block or not. At his best in 2020 he contended for a Pro Bowl spot. In reply to You really need to era by Aaron Brooks G. He basically played the Deebo role for the Browns. But at this point, given the numbers, thats how I am inclined to treat things. E. Smith wasn't good at that. It's also nice for skipping to a particular team, since the PDF is large enough that it can be cumbersome to load and then navigate (though the bookmarks help!). Great to have the new version out, but the navigation link to the digital download is not working and trying to access it through My Profile prompts me to subscribe again even though I'm already a + Subscriber. Only Rice has such a distance to all other players at his position (5398 receiving DYAR Rice, 17.8/game, total DYAR 18.8/game; 3944 receiving DYAR Moss, 18.1/game; 3480 DYAR Owens, 15.9/game) like Faulk does. Breece Hall was our top running back headed into this years draft class, and for good reason. Was there something about the culture, the environment, and the institutions that enabled otherwise good people to become participants to one of the worst atrocities ever committed by human beings? How often did you see a defender square Barry up and hit him solidly? In reply to I'm curious what DYAR thinks by Aaron Brooks G. Having read the Seahawks chapter of the newly released. Another shocker: in 1998 Faulk and Colts o-line had 647 total DYAR, exactly the same as MVP T. Davis and Broncos. That frees up Ty Johnson to take on a more specialized role as a passing back. Within the fanbase, there is a perception that Quinnen Williams has been a bit of a disappointment. Still, I think he is a very solid building block. If you're reading this blog, chances are you already know all about our friends at Football Outsiders and the terrific analysis they provide every year. If Carter is the 40 in a 60-40 split, hed be much more effective in the carries he takes. Otherwise, the Saints were almost always threatening on offense. Policies. Knowing When to Buy Points on NFL Lines in 2022. His social activism is in part tethered to his behavior with women in a manner that cuts both ways -- you can't raise that he defied social norms with women without also acknowledging that he defied social norms with women. ESPN: Biggest Post-Draft Hole for All 32 Teams, Playoff Previews (previously Game Previews), Links (to player / team pages, relevant stats pages, etc. In the NBA, it took a long time for the league to come to grips with the three point revolution. I think Quinnen Williams has been solid over his three years in New York. Anyway, Brown and Sanders are probably 1 and 2, Payton third. TOC & Copyright Stafford and Wilson are still playing and can accumulate this counting stat number. This is only comparing rushing stats, no receiving. It would be unfair to compare Faulk to those. Good luck with that. Odds and lines subject to change. And the difference between Faulk and rest is gigantic. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/195812210nyg.htm. In reply to Don't forget Jim Brown's old by Aaron Brooks G. That player needs a supporting cast and good coaching to get anywhere meaningful. 500+ pages of in-depth statistical analysis Previews of all 32 NFL teams Preseason and weekly fantasy projections Gain access to the Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 https://bit.ly/3ndxko4 #NFL | #NFLTwitter . Recent and Trending topics from Football Outsiders. You know that's going to color people's opinions. Deebo Samuel has more yards per carry and yards per target than Faulk. An interesting part of this year's almanac is 2022 rookie projections. In reply to Here is a career DYAR list by guest from Europe. So long as no one constructs a bamboo cannon, he should be in good shape. We haven't seen any other RB dominate like Jim Brown did. Be sure to get more out of Football Outsiders with a FO+ subscription! I've got a few suggested improvements I hope we can look forward to in future digital editions: In reply to Is the digital edition new? by dmb. In reply to Will, your comment is, as by BroncosGuyAgain. Let me be clear, this comes with the caveat that you aren't in bleed the clock mode, you aren't in a horrible down and distance situation, or your isn't some rushing maverick who opens up the rest of the run game. A look over the DVOA of both players paints a pretty clear picture that Romo at least by the numbers is better. Guys like Faulk and Tomlinson wouldn't be that close on this list. It has comprehensive previews on all 32 teams. Jim Brown 5.22 Snippets are a new A legend. Yes, Almanac access is only available with an FO+ subscription (or the print edition is available on Amazon only). That has been fixed. Brown was so much a better rusher than Payton I don't see how the other categories matter. Cale Clinton wrote the Jets. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Responsible Gaming, Support Football Outsiders' independent media and Aaron Schatz. 5 straight AFCCG at home, 2 time NFL MVP, 2 time SB MVP, absurd TD/INT ratio and pretty much dominating the AFC when it is the strongest conference by far. His rushing YPG of 104.3 is just 4.5 above that of 2nd-place Barry Sanders, but compared to his contemporaries in his rush-heavy era, there's no real comparison. I think Stafford and Palmer are close to Roethlisberger, closer than Roethlisberger to Brady. by James-London. He is way ahead of his peers and modern competition. I think a team should be looked at 4-5 years windows. Support Football Outsiders' independent media. Most men behave well. To this point they have focused on the young core playmakers on offense. Most men behave by Theo. Most yards per carry in NFL history (min 1500 attempts): That would mean changing the baselines or assessing all plays together and having only 1 baseline for a play, no distinction between run and pass. Maybe Darrell Revis too. RBs would be less valuable. My teacher bravely asked us not to simply write off the story as the results of evil men. In reply to Table 7 in Statistical Toolbox by benjamin_vns. So this site is going all "uuh Watson, dont want to talk about him!". In the Intro (in the PDF), there's a bunch of oddly hyphenated words (ex-panded, interfer-ence,finan-cial, etc.). There are more comments on this thread about Brown's off-field behavior than his on-field play, so I'm not sure where this sentiment is coming from. First play from scrimmage, Brown broke through the middle and outran everyone for a 65-yard TD. It's 1000of total DYAR,almost 40% more. They did what they did because laws were like that, others did that etc. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/career_av_career.htm, old football outsiders, only rushing, B. Sanders is on top by career z-score (many comments in the article, check out #59), https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2005/different-look-best-running-backs-ever. Not many will list him near the top of running back lists though, that is correct. We're happy to announce that theFootball Outsiders Almanac 2021, Digital Editionis now available! Rob Weintraub's tears dripping on the Steelers chapternever gets old. Your take is that in the history of the NFL, none of the thousands of running backs who played were less skilled than Jim Brown at these particular tasks. So, the only stats that i completely accept are team ones. He should make Zach Wilsons life easier immediately and be a focal point on the offense. It's a theoretical question for editors on this site. Add to the fact that wide receivers are compliments to the quarterback at least in terms of narrative. At 5-foot-11 and 217 pounds, Hall is much better suited to take those reps. That alone has a trickle-down effect that helps the whole rushing offense. The main reason why i started writing these comments is because i got tired of reading that QBs are everything, which devolved into memes such as Cousins LOL and Brady GOAT. So we have to accept it with an asterisk. Why people are so obsessed with individual players and rarely write about teams, i really don't understand. It would be nice to have links for the other sections, though -- if nothing else, consumers of the digital edition may not realize there's content in the PDF that they're not seeing. Obviously for J. In reply to i wanted to know how DVOA by guest from Europe. Per the Football Outsiders Almanac, they also led the NFL with 41 dropped passes. They say that Brown may be the only man who was the greatest ever at two different sports. With numerous statistical measures that go far beyond standard NFL stats, Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 gives NFL fans the kind of sabermetric-like statistical analysis that revolutionized the fan's understanding of baseball. Everything rotates, QB and kicker stay. Sadly, Brown didn't "defy social norms with women". That would be a neat trick for colonialists. Soon, somebody will write about Mahomes in these GOAT arguments. Etienne, 24, emerged as a dynamic running back in 2022 after missing all of his rookie season with a foot injury. In reply to Brown was better than by RickD. One could even argue Williams is not even the best defensive tackle taken in the first round of his own draft class. Sustained losing is easier to understand if a team keeps whiffing at QB. transcribe automatically. (Other than those two, Brown/Cleveland ate the Giants' lunch game by game. Jim Brown is perceived as a more physical player and more in control of his production than a wide receiver. Welcome to the fifth and final installment of our five-post series of questions with the folks from Football Outsiders about the 2022 Minnesota Vikings in celebration of the release of this. Mahomes 2018-2022 had 8191 passing DYAR and 330 run DYAR. They don't give you extra points for running a guy over, and it's faster to go around them. Stroud, Mike Tanier's Final Three-Round Mock Draft, Things to Do While Waiting for Aaron Rodgers. These certainly have less value than the team essays in a digital edition, since the content outside single-team sections -- or a reasonable substitute for it -- is often available elsewhere on the site. The highest stats (traditional or DYAR) per game, but a short career. Scouting Jets rookie defensive back Jarrick Bernard-Converse. 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There's a lot of good info in there about every team . I'm more iffy on 'Greatest of their time' but I can at least see it since you're comparing like to like. (OK, that didn't work out well; at all). 20-some plays a game Brown took the play off, resting up for when HE! Gambling Problem? Fantasy & Betting. Why would I put an ounce of faith in any analytical framework that tosses out 20-some plays each and every game?? Running behind this improved offensive line, Hall is going to be set up for success. Or even Don Hutson, who lined up as a quasi-TE a fair amount of the time. The 2 best individual seasons were by Simpson. The Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 is the ultimate way to prepare for the upcoming NFL season. BackCAST 2023: Is Zach Charbonnet Overrated? Get the Pre-Season Dirt You Need. The only reason he is around the same areas as Romo is because Romo kept getting hurt and didn't throw as much. In reply to I'm a firm believer in by Pen. With our new low prices (currently just $1/week!) A week later, Sam Huff and company held Brown to almost nothing (10 carries, 12 yards, IIRC) in the 10-0 win. By Bill-in-Bangkok @billhorgan2005. Steelers, Rams Set Offensive Line Continuity Records, XFL Week 7 Preview: St. Louis, Houston Scrap for Second, Most Overvalued Players in a 2023 Fantasy Football Draft, Rams Limp to the Front of 2022's DVOA Underachievers. New quarterback . He's not a wide receiver and frankly, what he did was such an outlier that he deserves the eye popping DVOA stats. We began with Zach Wilson. In reply to This is a compelling by guest from Europe. DVOA always favored throwing in the middle versus throwing on the outside. If a QB causes sustained winning, why not sustained losing? Over that time span only the QB and kicker are on that same team. He only led the NFL in rushing once in a 13-year career. Others retire, age, have shorter peaks. Which made each of them, along with additional guys like Ladainian Tomlinson and Marshall Faulk, better football players than Jim Brown. by Swjeppe. 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If you want to get your hands. Football Outsiders' Editor-in-Chief Aaron Schatz (@FO_ASchatz) is joined by Senior Analyst at Football Outsiders, Mike Tanier (@MikeTanier), Assistant Editor at Football Outsiders, Vince Verhei (@FO_VVerhei), and Writer/Analyst for Yahoo Sports/Fantasy, Matt Harmon (@MattHarmon_BYB), to continue our 2022 Football Outsiders Almanac preview series. All players, RBs and WRs would have the same baseline. We know you are here for the FREE analytics, not the ads. In previous years I've downloaded the PDF, and I was pleasantly surprised that readers can comment on the pages for each team in the digital edition. Once the book is available on Amazon-US (later this week! Somebody can look at A. Smith's career without seeing him play and claim he was developing slowly when he was young and later became the reason why 49ers and Chiefs were winning 2011-2017. I would say Jerry Rice. Cale kind of loses me with the making Ty Johnson a specialized passing back thing at the end, but aside from that I am with him. I still have him well regarded. Again Id say probably not. What is shocking to me is the difference from Faulk to Smith and Sanders. The site recently published their 2022 Almanac, which examines every NFL team and attempts to project expectations for the upcoming season. In another words, total team, including defense is more important than MVP-level QB. SackSEER 2023: Is Tyree Wilson Overrated? And while I don't favor mechanically adding up his DVOA or DYAR and presto declaring him the best player ever, I do think his sterling metrics suggest he is an all timer and one of those guys that deserves to be recognized above and beyond the typical hall of famer. You also need to account that Smith, Faulk, and Tomlinson spent most of their career with HOF QBs (or HoVG at minimum) whereas Sanders and Payton did not. In reply to Open discussion thread? If Brady and others is your Tier 1, Rivers, Romo and others Tier 2, than Stafford deserves at least Tier 2B label, not Tier 3 with Bridgewater and Tannehill and tens of other players. Simpson was found not guilty at trial, of murdering Nicole Brown. Is the digital edition new? While he did put up a solid rookie season, Michael Carter could not stay on the field because his 5-foot-8 frame couldnt take the beating. Football Outsiders tends to create somewhat robust stats and Aggressiveness is not just the percentage of time a coach elects to go for it on fourth down. Football Outsiders' Editor-in-Chief Aaron Schatz (@FO_ASchatz) is joined by Senior Analyst at Football Outsiders, Mike Tanier (@MikeTanier), Assistant Editor at Football Outsiders, Vince Verhei (@FO_VVerhei), and Writer/Analyst for Yahoo Sports/Fantasy, Matt Harmon (@MattHarmon_BYB), to continue our 2022 Football Outsiders Almanac preview series. The "innocent before proven guilty" standard only need apply with regard to the state punishing a citizen for a criminal offense. Football Outsiders is streaming LIVE every Thursday at 1 p.m. EDT. Both were very good QBs, had a long career and there wasn't much sustained winning over decade+. Brady was slightly better, Brees was mostly indoors. In reply to May as well just use this as by Vincent Verhei. On Page xvi, Pythagorean Projection, Daryl Morey is no longer general manager of the Houston Rockets. Call (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelpline.ma.org (MA), Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Very banal. i wanted to know how "DVOA" or this site evaluates careers of these all-time great RBs. 21+ (18+ NH/WY). I've been purchasing the Almanac since 2008 when it was still the Prospectus, buying the printed and the digital version since 2012. When he ends his career, he may be close to Ryan, Roethlisberger. Around the NFL Writer. Goedert also ranked second in DVOA . Here you are looking at decade+ probably. Forgive me, as I will probably fail to be articulate on this dicey subject. Better QBs in the tier 2 range offer a longer window of time, like Roethlisberger or Rivers or Allen at the moment. Use promo code, The Great Anthony Richardson Fantasy Football Debate, Eagles Soar, 49ers Faceplant in 2023 Draft Grades, Post-Draft Fantasy Questions for Each NFL Team, C.J. In reply to Fo digital edition error by dogonthetrack. Here is how FO projects three New York Giants rookies to fare. Football Outsiders Almanac 2021. Will, your comment is, as usual, relevant and completely reasonable. Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA (select parishes)/MA/MD/MI/NH/NJ/NY/OH/OR/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Circling back. In reply to i agree and am happy that by guest from Europe. Was there something about the culture, the environment, and the institutions that enabled otherwise good people to become participants to one of the worst atrocities ever committed by human beings? In reply to You have made clear your by BroncosGuyAgain, (Brown's confessional line regarding Liberace and his piano is pretty cool), In reply to All you gotta do is Google by BigRichie. 8 yards on 7 carries i found in some article. And while preparing the book, we came . 1 at 5.7. I have long wondered if a team might be better served treating all but short yardage situations as pass only downs. It's also written with a knowing dry wit that gets under the skin of America's most popular spectator sport. Could Micheal Clemons find work inside at Defensive Tackle. As both a runner and a pass catcher, many do consider Faulk to be the best. But if we consider the off-the-field record, and laud his leadership and impactful voice on issues of equality and fairness in an era of social upheaval, then we must also consider his troubling record of physical abuse toward women. Leaders are those who lead; they aren't angels. The Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 is the ultimate way to prepare yourself for the upcoming season. 1 by production. That would bring the total to 5 Hall of famers on one offense. In reply to For what it's worth, Barry by Aaron Brooks G. 2002 bad o-line. In reply to Hard Copy in the UK? Buy Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 Football Outsiders' annual almanac is currently on sale. Usually people prefer long careers. Also, what is the explanation for pattern of sustained losing? But he is not the first great man who had a troubled personal history. He was 15-16 attempts/game. That's basically how it shook out when we rebaselined Cordarrele Patterson and CMC. (Either way you want to sort that) He's an interesting guy to handle from an intersectionality standpoint. Pages for sections outside the team essays (e.g. There has been a good amount of parity across the league in 2022, as well as lopsided teams with a good offense and a bad defense (or vice versa). It thinks Sanders' style with Lions o-line was unsustainable and slightly prefers E. Smith with Cowboys o-line in terms of volume. So Jerry Rice's production is always tied to Hall of Fame quarterbacks whereas at least in that era, Jim Brown's production was perceived to be of his own making. O.J. Roethlisberger 60.7 Palmer 49.2 Stafford around 47, R. Wilson around 49, Romo 56.7. Maybe all of Faulk's DYAR becomes negative. Founder of Football Outsiders The Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 is coming soon! Football Is marketed as the ultimate tough guy sport. Then all RBs must be compared to that. Maybe Quinnen Williams isnt quite what Jets fans were hoping for, but hes still a good to very good player. Even on blown blocks, though, his ability to read a defense as it unfolds helps mask a lot of those mistakes. Exclusive Premium Content For Subscribers. The Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 is a thorough preview of the upcoming NFL season. In reply to As both a runner and a pass by Theo. Now, DYAR accounts for both rushing and receiving. Gambling Problem? Jerry Rice does not comes down to the position he plays. I guess it's another implication of "passing is valued higher than running". Do I understand correctly that the digital version is only available for FO+ subscribers ? Jjim Brown was the best player of his era, where he was "the ultimate tough guy". While we allow for international sales, the availabilityis really in the hands of Amazon through their operationsand logistics side. 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Use promo code, The Great Anthony Richardson Fantasy Football Debate, Eagles Soar, 49ers Faceplant in 2023 Draft Grades, Post-Draft Fantasy Questions for Each NFL Team, C.J. Could Micheal Clemons find work inside at Defensive Tackle. It was another era with other rules and other style of play. There is deeper meaning that you get when you try to parse down things to their individual level. Do you have an ETA on when the book will be up on amazon.co.uk? Void in ONT. There are reasonable arguments for others, mostly Sweetness and modern quarterbacks. Few are the men who do not. Cale Clinton wrote the chapter on the Jets. I don't think it makes sense to judge Faulk to a receiver's standards. What happened? Similar with Rodgers and Packers. Manning 2003-2007 had 9999 pass DYAR and -39 run DYAR. That was one of the most talented offenses of all time. Even though emmitt Smith won the rushing title, everyone sort of just brushed past him. Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA (select parishes)/MA/MD/MI/NH/NJ/NY/OH/OR/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. That's led to a bit of a backlash against the idea that a metric like Defense-Adjusted Yards Over Replacement (DYAR) underrates boom-or-bust runners likeReggie Bush,Ryan GrantorBarry Sanders, with the thought being that their big-play ability makes up for their inability to pick up consistent yardage and move the chains. DVOA always favored throwing in the middle versus throwing on the outside. Sayers topped 200 rushes only twice. There aren't many backs who are legitimate difference makers in this league, but I think the rookie from Iowa State has all of the tools necessary to be one. Usually people prefer long careers. For comparison E. Smith in 1992-1995 had about 1750 total DYAR. 21+ (18+ NH/WY). The Football Outsiders Almanac 2022 is a thorough preview of the upcoming NFL season. 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